• Lenovo Ideapad 3 15-IML05 (MB NM-c781 rev:1.0) not starting with battery only

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#1 Lenovo Ideapad 3 15-IML05 (MB NM-c781 rev:1.0) not starting with battery only


Napisal/-a hussam 8 Marec 2023, 18:55
Hallo every one,

I have a Lenovo Lenovo Ideapad 3 15-IML05 mother board: NM-c781 rev:1.0
the laptop charges the battery but it will start just with AC adapter plugged in .

with only battery :
V20B+ is present
no voltage at all coils

with AC Adapter the laptop starts normal

-PU1101 : there is no output voltage
pin#2,3,4=7.7v
pin# 9 EN1=0v
pin#8 EN2=0.56v resistance to ground 60Ω (is that normal)



any one have an idea what could cause this problem?

thanks

Re: Lenovo Ideapad 3 15-IML05 (MB NM-c781 rev:1.0) not starting with battery only


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#2 Re: Lenovo Ideapad 3 15-IML05 (MB NM-c781 rev:1.0) not starting with battery only


Napisal/-a matic 9 Marec 2023, 08:44
Hello!

Measure the voltages to ground on pins 1, 4, 8 of transistor PQ5303 with the battery connected only (without power supply).

#3 Re: Lenovo Ideapad 3 15-IML05 (MB NM-c781 rev:1.0) not starting with battery only


Napisal/-a hussam 9 Marec 2023, 10:39
Hello matic,

Pin 1,2,3=7.7v
Pin5=7.7v

The laptop charges the battery normally therefore i think this transistor working fine.

#4 Re: Lenovo Ideapad 3 15-IML05 (MB NM-c781 rev:1.0) not starting with battery only


Napisal/-a matic 9 Marec 2023, 10:55
How about the voltage on pin 4?

Please, post a picture of the sticker on the battery.

#5 Re: Lenovo Ideapad 3 15-IML05 (MB NM-c781 rev:1.0) not starting with battery only


Napisal/-a hussam 9 Marec 2023, 17:31
Voltage on pin 4 is =13.7 v
Here is also the battery Photo
Slika

#6 Re: Lenovo Ideapad 3 15-IML05 (MB NM-c781 rev:1.0) not starting with battery only


Napisal/-a matic 9 Marec 2023, 21:16
hussam napisal/-a:-PU1101
pin#8 EN2=0.56v resistance to ground 60Ω (is that normal)
That's definitely not normal. Have you measured the resistance with the main battery disconnected from the board?

Also measure the voltage to ground on pin 8 of PU1101 with the power supply connected.

#7 Re: Lenovo Ideapad 3 15-IML05 (MB NM-c781 rev:1.0) not starting with battery only


Napisal/-a hussam 9 Marec 2023, 21:44
I have forgot to disconnect the battery when i measured pin 8
Resistance to ground on pin 8 is 770Ω.

With AC adapter connected pin8 = 1.5v

#8 Re: Lenovo Ideapad 3 15-IML05 (MB NM-c781 rev:1.0) not starting with battery only


Napisal/-a matic 9 Marec 2023, 22:00
hussam napisal/-a:Resistance to ground on pin 8 is 770Ω.
This resistance is still much too low.

hussam napisal/-a:With AC adapter connected pin8 = 1.5v
This voltage is also too low.

Remove the chip PU1101 from the board and remeasure the resistance to ground on pad 8 on the place of this chip. If the resistance will be high (in kΩ or greater), replace the chip PU1101.

#9 Re: Lenovo Ideapad 3 15-IML05 (MB NM-c781 rev:1.0) not starting with battery only


Napisal/-a hussam 9 Marec 2023, 22:08
Pu1101 is removed. Pin 8 is still 700ohm

#10 Re: Lenovo Ideapad 3 15-IML05 (MB NM-c781 rev:1.0) not starting with battery only


Napisal/-a matic 9 Marec 2023, 22:18
This resistance is much too low.
Please, post a clear picture of the chip PU1101 board area with a nearby surroundings (with the chip PU1101 removed from the board).

#11 Re: Lenovo Ideapad 3 15-IML05 (MB NM-c781 rev:1.0) not starting with battery only


Napisal/-a hussam 9 Marec 2023, 22:26
Slika

#12 Re: Lenovo Ideapad 3 15-IML05 (MB NM-c781 rev:1.0) not starting with battery only


Napisal/-a matic 10 Marec 2023, 07:54
Please, post a clear picture of the same area from the other side of the board.

#13 Re: Lenovo Ideapad 3 15-IML05 (MB NM-c781 rev:1.0) not starting with battery only


Napisal/-a hussam 10 Marec 2023, 18:15
Slika

#14 Re: Lenovo Ideapad 3 15-IML05 (MB NM-c781 rev:1.0) not starting with battery only  [REŠENO]


Napisal/-a matic 10 Marec 2023, 21:23
Measure the resistance between the point "A" and pin 8 of chip PU1101.
Slika

#15 Re: Lenovo Ideapad 3 15-IML05 (MB NM-c781 rev:1.0) not starting with battery only


Napisal/-a hussam 10 Marec 2023, 21:30
Problem solved.
Pr1107=1Mohm was defective. After replacing it the laptop starts normally from the battery.
Thanks matic for your help

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